Today I received a request for an estimate on my Business Growthworx, web development, and SEO services business.
See the request below screenshots, which was a scam. But I was aware of it. And I tried to see what he can do. I will let you know that today.
For SEO purposes, I am writing the exact email to you below:
| Name: Corn Deann |
| Message: |
| I have a small clothing business for both male and female which i run here in Indianapolis IN , all now am trying to expand the business and i want you to build an E-commerce website for it for advertisement and to increase my sales rate..so i need you to checkout this site but i need something more perfect than this it is possible, http://www.missrebel.co.uk The site would only be E-commerce so i need you to give me an estimate .The estimate should include hosting and i want the site to have not more than 8 pages since it is E-commerce and I have a private project graphic designer ,he has the text content, images and the logos for the site. Note: 1. I want only English language 2. I don’t have a domain yet but i want the domain name as swishwearsel.io or swishwearsel.tv 3.You will be updating the site for me. 4. I will be proving the images,logos and content for the site. 5. I want the site up and running before the end of next month. 6. My budget is $7300 Kindly get back to me with: (1) an estimate (2) and Actually I want something like the miserable site i provided to you caused the Content and the logo and images is with the graphic designer once you are about to get the services started i would surely provided that to you and i want you to get back to me with the estimate on the website design services I only wanted an E-commerce site i like the layout of the site that is why it was sent to you as sample i will like to go with the swishwearsel.tv I think that will be better as a domain name you can purchase that for me.I am not selling on the site yet that is why i want it informational for now.I have up to 50 items i want to upload on the site for now .i want the site updated monthly each time i have new designs i want to upload on the site.I will like the search engine optimization ,It will make it easier for people to get to my site my budget is for the website alone ,I would have my private project graphic designer forward the information you will be needing as soon as you come up with an estimate.I would like you to get back to me with your estimate so we can proceed |
And then I talked with him and gave an estimate.
After getting the estimate, he agreed to that and became ready to pay me. Ha ha. So I told him to pay me with Wise.
My referral Wise Sign Up link.
But he said he can not use Wise. Okay fine. I told him to pay directly on my website creating a payment link for $10,000 approximately. But he refused that too.
Then I saw his poor English in a text and my doubt became stronger.
Finally, I Googled his email address nicholosonanthonyy@gmail.com and Rgrjasone@gmail.com and found a website that warned about scammers: Avoid Web Design Scams
And finally, I decided to stop chatting with that f* shit and write this article for someone else.
Thanks for reading.
I will give our full hangout chatting below:
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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1:57 PM
Let’s chat on Hangouts!
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:00 PM
Hi
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:05 PM
Hello
How are you doing today
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:06 PM
I am doing well. What about you?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:06 PM
I’m good
So I would like to proceed with the payment now
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:08 PM
Sure. Can you do it with Wise? It has less hassle. And I am not sure about the Payoneer. I have received less payments on Payoneer. But if you feel comfortable with that, I am okay with it.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:08 PM
Sure I’ll
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:09 PM
How can I communicate with your Graphics designer?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:09 PM
I would like you to know that I would have to get back to you in few minutes Just want to make some clarification with the Graphics Designer regarding all the necessary documents needed for my website and I would get back to you shortly once I discussed
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:10 PM
Okay, no problem! Take your time.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:35 PM
I already conclude with the graphic designer now and i would be needing a little favor from you regarding to the graphic designer who has the text content ,logo,images needed for my website and i would be grateful if you could help me with the favor?
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:35 PM
Yes sure. Let me know what can I do.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:38 PM
Okay good , I would like you to help me with the favor so he can drop you the content file and go ahead with my project…..I need this website i would be glad if you could help me out with this favor , I want you to send me an invoice of $7,820 , $2,500 if your your down deposit payment plus i want you to deduct the $100 for your gratitude to get this done for my website design and the remaining $4680 you would help me send its to the graphic designer that has the text content and the logo for my website as half payment , once he has the $4680 he would send the text content and logo needed for my website to you also the funds would be sent to him via Skills into is account , please let me know if you can help me with this ?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:40 PM
So you would be sending me an invoice of $7820 ok
You would deduct your down payment of $2500+100
And have the rest $4680 sent to him
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:42 PM
Oh I understand now. Okay, I can do it. But my down payment should be $3500, half of total project cost $7000. Shouldn’t it?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:42 PM
You can also get Bitcoins for him
Ok if that is the case
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:43 PM
Bitcoins are not available on Bangladesh. So I can send him $$.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:44 PM
$3500+ $7200 would be total of $10,700
So send me an invoice of $10,700
So you would deduct $3500 as your down payment
And have the rest $7200 sent to him ok
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:45 PM
$7200 for your graphic designer? Didn’t you say $4680 first? Let me know if I am incorrect on this.
And the total should be $4680+$3500
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:46 PM
Yeah that a type error
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:46 PM
$8,180 total.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:46 PM
It’s $7200 for the graphics designer ok
It’s a phone type error
So it’s $7200 for the graphics designer so I hope you are understanding me regarding to this
So go ahead and have the invoice of $10,700 sent to me now
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:47 PM
I get it. So the problem is, there is no invoicing option on Wise. Can you send $10,700 directly?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:47 PM
You can have it sent through payoneer
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:47 PM
Ok sure
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:47 PM
That would be preferable
Yeah
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:48 PM
What is your email address?
Oh one more question, how will I send money to your graphics designer? Where is he/she from?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:49 PM
You can have it send to him thru coinme
You can easily setup with coinme online and it’s would be easy to have a Bitcoin sent to him directly
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:50 PM
Ok
What is your email address to send the invoice?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:50 PM
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:51 PM
I know this app. Thanks
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:53 PM
Sure my email address is rgrjasone@gmail.com
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:53 PM
Thanks!
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:53 PM
Rgrjasone@gmail.com
So I’ll be awaiting on it
So you would be needing what again
Full name and country right
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:54 PM
Yes, please
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:57 PM
First name : Corn deann
State : United state
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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2:58 PM
Thank you!
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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2:59 PM
Address : 5 MacArthu St, Stoughton Ma 02072
So let me know when you sent it
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:03 PM
Okay!
Don’t you have Payoneer account with the email Rgrjasone@gmail.com ?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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3:05 PM
No I don’t
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:05 PM
Ohh, okay!
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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3:05 PM
But that won’t be a problem
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:06 PM
What state do you live in?
Massachusetts?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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3:07 PM
Yes
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:07 PM
Okay!
What is your company name?
And website url?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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3:08 PM
Switchdeal
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:08 PM
Okay! And Website URL?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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3:10 PM
Switchdeal.co
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:19 PM
Done. I have sent you the invoice
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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3:59 PM
Have you got it?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:06 PM
This is what I got
It’s didn’t show where it’s would say I should input my card information
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:07 PM
You can use this link then https://link.payoneer.com/Token?t=63D25B2B72AC4497AA6DF872EA27C440
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:14 PM
You should have get this when you click on the pay button
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:15 PM
Yes I got it
But is not showing where it’s would say I should Input my card information
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:16 PM
Did you click on Next?
On last step you will get option to add card.
You can not be a individual when you pay me. Do you have business account? These are the problems on Payoneer.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:19 PM
It’s not showing
See this
And it’s showing this
Is this your first time using it
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:21 PM
Yes, I am requesting Payment on Payoneer first time.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:21 PM
Oh
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:21 PM
Can you pay with Wise?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:21 PM
No I can’t
It’s only payoneer
I think you should figure it out at your end
Maybe when you are staring the invoice
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:22 PM
What can I do while starting the invoice?
Have you sent payments like this prior?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:23 PM
This my 2nd time making a payment via payoneer
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:24 PM
Okay! So last time it went well right? You were able to use the card?
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:24 PM
Yes it’s went successfully
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:25 PM
can you try this one https://link.payoneer.com/Token?t=0609F496FFA8472DA0EC7B651663E9C8 ?
It is a new invoice
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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4:29 PM
Still same thing
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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4:29 PM
Ok let me talk with Payoneer.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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56 min
Where do you click here
In this first option
Click the second option and let me see ok
And send me the link
So I can see if it’s there
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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54 min
I see this:
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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53 min
Yes click the first option
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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52 min
Then? I did it this way
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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50 min
Yes click that
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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49 min
I did
And then the same “request payment option”
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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32 min
Yes have the link sent to me
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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32 min
You can use this link to pay me also. It has the option to pay with cards. https://abdullahtofa.com/product/website-design-seo-for-3-months/
Website design & SEO for 3 months
abdullahtofa.com
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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31 min
I can’t work with the link ok
So I can only make it eligible with Payoneer
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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30 min
Are you sure you have paid prior with Payoneer with a card? I was warned that you have no payoneer account. And also I have got the same link again, here it is: https://link.payoneer.com/Token?t=0609F496FFA8472DA0EC7B651663E9C8
And currently I am talking with Payoneer.
Nicholoson Anthonyy
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27 min
Still same thing
But it’s not possible I should have an account with them before I can make the payment with my card
Hussain Abdullah Tofa
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24 min
Ok no problem
I have given you all possible
If that doesnt work for you, then I guess we have no other way.